Talk:OpenZFS Office Hours

Approaches to broadcast
I am considering using SpreeCast for my Office Hours. Random fact: SpreeCast used to be in the same building as Delphix. When they moved to a bigger office, we took over their space.

Mahrens (talk) 00:51, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

First and second impressions of Spreecast
Attempt to view something that's on air, there's a very prominent and endless banner Starting Spreecast™ social video stream then eventually, small and overlooked in a far corner, not connected.

With the first browser that I tested, sign up to Spreecast via e-mail did not work, the expected dialogue (pictured at http://about.spreecast.com/getting-started/) did not appear. I'll report the issue.

I signed up, signed in then attempted to view something else that was on air. Again: endlessly reportedly starting the stream, whilst not connected.

Then after confirming my e-mail address, in a new browser window I tried a third event that was on air. Again: endlessly reportedly starting the stream, whilst not connected.

I found examples of current and future events but nothing past; nothing pre-recorded.

For broadest awareness of the benefits of ZFS and OpenZFS, I'd like something that can be:
 * played back by anyone without the need to sign up.

As a side note, I'd prefer something that doesn't require Adobe Flash Player.

--Grahamperrin (talk) 03:09, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Pros
Multi-platform (Android, iOS, Linux, OS X, Windows). H.264, H.323/SIP and so on.

Whilst SeeVogh does not follow an open-source model, there's reasonable openness around associated technologies such as MonaLISA and LISA.

Recordings can be exported to user-friendly formats and shared freely.

Some groups enjoy free access to Research Network (SRN).

Cons
Desktop use involves Java Web Start.

OS X users should select in Finder, then Control-Click to open, the .jnlp file – it's from an unidentified developer. (Less securely, and I shouldn't recommend this, there's advice to allow applications downloaded from anywhere.)

Not entirely free of charge. Beyond an evaluation period, you might find that someone (typically from a host organisation) should purchase enough enough credits for the planned meeting. When I last checked, the cost was reasonable.

In the online documentation for SeeVogh there are gaps (some has not yet transitioned from EVO – see below) but what's present should be enough for the average user.

Random facts
EVO, the predecessor to SeeVogh, was often used for meetings relating to the Large Hadron Collider.

As the past maintainer and occasional operator of a videoconferencing suite that included Access Grid®, IOCOM Visimeet (janet connected) and other facilities: for most events, I found EVO to be the best choice, especially where a participant might use Linux.

Side notes:
 * Visimeet for Mac was particularly ghastly, I never got it to work in the janet-oriented environment (YMMV)
 * the geek in me enjoyed occasional use of the MonaLISA interactive client for armchair analysis of network traffic of meetings in which I was too stupid to participate ;-)
 * if SeeVogh methods of recording, playback and export are not obvious when the software is in use, contact me (note to self: EVO Recording Player).

SeeVogh Adds Recording And Playback To Its HD Video Conferencing And Collaboration Player (2013-09-23) confirms that the more integrated approach to playback will be rolled out to all users by 15th October.

--Grahamperrin (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Other alternatives to Spreecast
If needed, I'll happily dig through bookmarks and notes from a year or so ago. Somewhere amongst it all, there's less gobbledygook. Stuff that was intended (or promised) to work with HTML5, and so on.

--Grahamperrin (talk) 16:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Google+ Hangouts
Discussed briefly in IRC.

No go in my Safari.

http://www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/schedule.html no go in Google Chrome 31.0.1639.0 canary. Persistently treats me as signed out whilst truly I'm signed in.

Also noted:

> hangouts won't install in FreeBSD, even in Chromium.

--Grahamperrin (talk) 04:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Preparing for OpenZFS Office Hours #1
Assuming that weekends are the best time to test, this weekend (28th–29th September) may be the best opportunity to test whatever service is to be used for the first event.

If it's IRC alone, no need to test – simply publicise the medium (a dedicated channel?) a couple of days in advance so that people who will be new to IRC have an opportunity to familiarise themselves.

If something richer than IRC – AV (at least audio) with integrated text chat could be ideal – then maybe test today or tomorrow, with a leisurely ironing out of wrinkles before event #1 goes on air.

Cross reference: Talk:OpenZFS_Day … if there's time to find a solution to please all (or most) tastes before OpenZFS Office Hours #1, then that same solution might be used for OpenZFS Day. Just a thought.

Bottom line: no pressure. Just kicking the ball around.

--Grahamperrin (talk) 08:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)